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"Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen" (sportwagen) 09/25/2014 at 00:45 • Filed to: Questions

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Is it possible to have two different bolt patterns on the same hub? Say 5x112 and 5x114.3?

EDIT: Forgot to mention that my car uses lug bolts (AKA you screw a bolt into the hub) so there are no studs sticking out of the hub...

EDIT 2: Is anyone going to answer???

Tohru > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 09/25/2014 at 00:53

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On the wheel, yes. On the hub, no.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > Tohru 09/25/2014 at 00:55

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How on the wheel? I was thinking of this:

DancesWithRotors - Driving Insightfully > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 09/25/2014 at 01:12

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I've known of Fiat Spider guys drilling 4x100 patterns in their hubs with a 45* offset to the stock 4x98...

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > DancesWithRotors - Driving Insightfully 09/25/2014 at 01:15

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Well I have access to a press for free (or extremely cheap) but all of the 5x112 wheels for sale are very overpriced or are those stupid Maya wheels... So I'm looking at either 5x114.3 or 5x115 wheels... Both patterns would fit within the hub, but I want to keep the stock rims too

Tohru > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 09/25/2014 at 01:19

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They make "dual pattern" wheels. Typically found in 4x100/4x114, 5x100/5x114, 6x135/6x5.5, and 8x6.5/8x170.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > Tohru 09/25/2014 at 01:22

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But my car uses lug bolts, so if I had two different patterns on it I could use two different wheel types (ex my 5x112 stock wheels for dd'ing and 5x114.3 wheels for autocross and track) would it work?

Tohru > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 09/25/2014 at 01:37

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You *might* be able to take the hubs to a machine shop and get a second set of holes machined in them. You could also run a set of adapters. Easiest solution is to just run wheels that come in the bolt pattern of your car.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > Tohru 09/25/2014 at 01:39

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the issue is that the wheels in my bolt pattern are few and far between (5x112 vw and Audi specific) and the neighbor has all of the tools (press, etc) to do it my/himself for cheap or free...

Tohru > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 09/25/2014 at 01:47

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Well, it might be worth giving it a go. Just make sure the new holes are roughly equally spaced between the existing ones.

Squid > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 09/25/2014 at 03:04

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You might be able to get away with it, but you need to take into consideration of the strength of the hub after you take metal out of it. Will the hub plate still be strong enough to withstand the high cornering forces experienced while driving hard on sticky tires? Are you positively sure you can drill and tap the holes precise and accurately enough? Are you willing to replace parts if you mess up or if they break on you while driving? The hub experiences a whole fuckton of force and drilling more holes in it may end up weakening it.

Have you checked to see if anyone has made an adapter/spacer ring that bolts on and uses a different pattern with studs?

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > Squid 09/25/2014 at 07:53

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Another choice... wobble bolts? Specifically these.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 09/25/2014 at 08:41

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As long as the wheel is hub-centric and fits well, those would work. The difference we're talking about is 0.09 inches here, not exactly huge.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 09/25/2014 at 09:21

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Yeah, it isn't worth it to fill and redrill the hubs because the wheels would be for autocross only...

Squid > Squid 09/25/2014 at 10:39

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Wobble bolts probably win if they work as advertised. . .